Hit-and-run Social Bookmarking

Posted by amabaie under Online Marketing
From http://www.zoomit.ca 5062 days ago
Made Hot by: maplesummit on June 14, 2010 11:30 am

Why is it worth your time and effort to look at other people’s submissions? Well, for the same reason that you take the time to speak with people at networking meetings - because the value to you of participating depends on the relationships you build with other members.

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Written by businessavante
4913 days ago

Some of you are assuming you know their motives for not otherwise participating. If the material submitted is good, I'm voting for it based on merit - because that's More Fair than pre-judging someone's motives w/o knowing what they really are! If the article is good, it deserves a vote - period!

businessavante

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Written by ivanwalsh
4913 days ago

@hamed1 - re: I'm also seeing so many people who don't answer the comments.

They're still in 'broadcast' mode. Takes time to change.

Ivan

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Written by hamed1
4913 days ago

Amabai it amazes me how few votes are cast by the people who upload their submissions to the site. It is bad behavior. I'm also seeing so many people who don't answer the comments. It seems that they think they are entitled to something for nothing. I don't vote for you sire but please vote for me?

Hamed

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Written by saraib820
4913 days ago

Hamed,

Just as in life many people want to see how much they can get out of something and how little they have to put in.

It's kind of crappy. I liken it to people who have no incentive to get off of welfare or children who are never disciplined for bad behavior . As long as there is a payoff, the negative behavior is reinforced and there is absolutely no incentive to change.

Rivkah

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Written by m4bmarketing
5061 days ago

Having read through the articles and comments, it got me thinking that if you take a step back it could be that some people are only interested in certain topics and that is why they vote the way they do.

I can't say much about the hit and run, some will do it for whatever reasons. In some cases they may have read the article on the person's blog and do not need to read it again and just vote and they do not have anything they want to comment on.

Although it can be frustrating to all of you who support this site so well, I don't think you can have rules or force people to comment, read the articles in full etc. With so much discussion I am sure it will sort itself out. Look forward to reading more posts later today.

Cheers,

Susan

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Written by BradenM
5061 days ago

I should clarify-I don't care if people vote for their circle of partners. But when they ONLY vote for each other and nobody else, it's just plain rude. It becomes pretty obvious they are only using the site to forward their own goals and pimp each other.

Braden

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Written by amabaie
5061 days ago

I agree. There are two main things that cause me to stop as I skim through submissions that are often mostly spam: the submitter's familiar avatar and a title that are of interest. Either of those gets me to stop and pay attention. If it's a friend that submitted something boring or a known hit-and-run submitter with something awesome, I get all conflicted inside and am forced to each chocolate covered almonds. Fortunately, that doesn't happen too much. :-)

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Written by BradenM
5061 days ago

Good article and discussion. I suppose when the Submitter Mafia (La Cosa Votestra) around here gets to 16 members and start voting each others stories to the front page by default every time, I'll get even more pissed.

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Written by yoni67
5061 days ago

Yes, a passionate issue. Comments are serious, opinionated and quite amusing...as in "La Cosa Votestra."

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Written by saraib820
5061 days ago

11 comments and 9 votes in 1.5 hours. Appears that the Hit & Run issue is one which evokes a great deal of passion. And frustration :(

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Written by amabaie
5061 days ago

You mean it's not just me? @alinisrael hat gotten me thinking about some kind of throttle to at least better balance submissions and votes/comments. You cannot force community, but you can force people to slow down just enough that some (not all) will participate just a little more.

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Written by shepherd
5061 days ago

A very interesting tool David is the 'Voted' button on each persons profile page. With one click you can see if they are team players, part of a vote for me and I'll vote for you group or if they are truly community members.

Shep

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Written by lovedthisarticle!
5061 days ago

David, I long ago stopped voting for those who don't vote. And those who only vote for there friends already have 10 to 12 votes LOCKED Up for each article. they don't need mine. The truth is I do read there articles, but no matter how good they are I won't give in and vote for those who don't share a mutual interest. Great submission!

Heidi K.

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Written by saraib820
5062 days ago

It's sad that people want votes for their own articles but don't want to vote for others. I think Websters defines the word as "entitlement".

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Written by saraib820
5062 days ago

David,

I agree these points are worth repeating. The hit and run is annoying. What's even more annoying though is those that do stick around and cast automatic votes for their same buddies all the time.

Rivkah

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Written by yoni67
5062 days ago

Great post my friend! And great responses!

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Written by alinisrael
5062 days ago

How 'bout new rule? Must vote for 5 other articles for each post person makes? And must actually read them too.

Alan

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Written by amabaie
5062 days ago

Actually, there used to be a rule like that at a couple of the Spanish social bookmarking websites (maybe still is). I think http://www.meneame.net/ and http://www.enchilame.com/ were among them. You had to vote for a certain number of submissions before you could post. After a period of inactivity (weeks? months?), the restriction would be reinstated on your account. What that did was a) make it a pain for spammers to just drop a link, and b) made people think about the voting part, not just the submission part. The weak aspect of such rules is that there is no way to make people read the articles. Or even the descriptions. Or even the titles.

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Written by 9devon9
5062 days ago

The only problem is that the people who should read it never will! A catch22! Devon

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Written by amabaie
5062 days ago

LOL. So far 7 hit-and-run submissions following this one. You would think that the one or two immediately after would stop and think...but I suppose they would have to stop and read first.

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Written by 9devon9
5062 days ago

Might be related but well worth another mention!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks you David

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Written by amabaie
5062 days ago

This post relates a lot to what Heidi aka @lovedthisarticle! wrote about in http://www.bizsugar.com/Self-Development/don%E2%80%99t-respond-to-biz-sugar-comments-you-might-lose-a-reader-a-voter-/and her two preceding posts.

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